{"id":1130,"date":"2019-09-11T11:06:41","date_gmt":"2019-09-11T15:06:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/?p=1130"},"modified":"2020-11-30T14:45:02","modified_gmt":"2020-11-30T19:45:02","slug":"classroom-dissection-elisabeth-ormandy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/classroom-dissection-elisabeth-ormandy\/","title":{"rendered":"Dissection Part 2: Classroom Dissection &#8211; Non-Animal Alternatives as Superior Teaching Tools with Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1130-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3\">https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3<\/a><\/audio><br \/>\nThe Zoocheck Podcast is broadcasting an interview with Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy, executive director and co-founder of the Animals in Science Policy Institute based in British Columbia, Canada. She joins last week\u2019s debate on dissection, a common practice in Canadian classrooms, and explains the results of a survey conducted among teachers in 2017.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Ormandy reports that 79% of teachers in British Columbia, considered one of Canada\u2019s most progressive provinces, still perform dissections in their classrooms. Throughout Canada, dissections are performed in grades 5 through 12, and typically use a wide range of animals or animal parts provided by biological supply companies. Dr. Ormandy points out however, that in AISPI\u2019s surveys, the majority of teachers still expressed that they would be very willing to switch to non-animal alternatives, if they could overcome the barrier of lack of time to research those alternatives \u2013 something with which her organization helps.<\/p>\n<p>There are different ways in which non-animal alternatives are superior to dissections. The main one Dr. Ormandy emphasizes is that students do indeed learn better from simulation or other digital tools, as shown by numerous empirical studies. She explains that furthermore, non-animal alternatives are cheaper for schools, they are the greener option, and are safer and more inclusive for students, allowing everyone to participate.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThere are 3 guiding principles to the ethical use of animals in science. They\u2019re called the 3 R\u2019s principles: Replacement, Reduction, and Refinement. And replacement simply says that if you can meet your scientific or educational goals without using animals, it\u2019s our ethical obligation as scientists in the world to not use animals. So the data about the educational merit of non-animal methods shows us that replacement is an ethical obligation in this case.\u201d &#8211; Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nowadays, students are able to pass science class without having to do dissections, but there are still some challenges. Teachers say that anywhere from up to 25% of students are asking to opt out of dissections, but that leads us to believe that a lot more students witness dissections passively, or feel very pressured to perform them involuntarily in order to continue on with their studies. Dr. Ormandy believes that all schools should have a student choice policy to empower students to take their own decisions and preserve their innate sense of compassion and empathy for animals.<\/p>\n<div class='et-box et-shadow'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class='et-box-content'><h3>Be part of the change!<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Ask your school for a student choice policy that will empower students to make their own choices about performing dissections.<\/li>\n<li>Ask your school-aged child about dissection, whether they will be doing one in class and what they think about it.<\/li>\n<li>Consult <a href=\"https:\/\/www.animalsinscience.org\/\">Animals in Science Policy Institute&#8217;s<\/a> web resource, researching and providing teachers with hundreds of different alternatives to dissections, including guest class programs.<\/li>\n<li>Offer humane education to children in your community by building on empathy for animals and peers, thus allowing them to become better community members themselves.<\/li>\n<li>Ask your elected officials to create a policy consistent with the principle of replacement that regulates animal use in science and in education.<\/li>\n<li>Help us spread the word by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/classroom-dissection-elisabeth-ormandy\/\">sharing this podcast in your network<\/a>!<\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div><\/div>\n<h3>Learn more<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/classroom-dissection-lori-marino\/\">Listen to Part 1 of our series on dissection with Dr. Lori Marino<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.animalsinscience.org\/what_we_do\/research\/literature-review\/\">Comparative Studies of Animal and Non-Animal Methods in Teaching<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.animalsinscience.org\/what_we_do\/programs\/humanescienceeducation_schools\/teacher-portal\/aispis-non-animal-alternatives-database\/\">Online searchable database of digital alternatives to dissection that teachers actually do implement in classrooms<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcrm.org\/ethical-science\/animal-testing-and-alternatives\">The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine on Animal-Testing Alternatives<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.animalearn.org\/\">Animalearn and The Science Bank, a leading free lending library of humane science products<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If you\u2019ve enjoyed listening to our podcast, we\u2019ve a favour to ask. A lot of volunteering goes into making Now You Know, but it still takes money to run. If you\u2019d like to help us make future Now You Know podcasts, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/nowyouknowca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">please consider donating.<\/a> Thank you!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/nowyouknowca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/become_a_patron_button.png\"><\/a><br \/>\nKathryn, Gen and the Now You Know team.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1130-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3\">https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NYK-Experts-Uncut-Interview-with-Elizabeth-Ormandy.mp3<\/a><\/audio><br \/>\nIn this interview, Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy, co-founder and executive director of BC-based Animals in Science Policy Institute, details all of the phenomenal benefits of switching to non-animal alternatives to classroom dissection. Be prepared to be amazed how easy it is for teachers to switch to these superior models and how they help students to learn more effectively in a cheaper, greener, and safer way.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1132,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","filesize_raw":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","itunes_episode_number":"","itunes_title":"","itunes_season_number":"","itunes_episode_type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1130","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-featured"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Dissection Part 2: Classroom Dissection - Non-Animal Alternatives as Superior Teaching Tools with Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy | Now You Know Podcast<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.zoocheck.com\/podcast\/classroom-dissection-elisabeth-ormandy\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dissection Part 2: Classroom Dissection - Non-Animal Alternatives as Superior Teaching Tools with Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy | Now You Know Podcast\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"In this interview, Dr. Elisabeth Ormandy, co-founder and executive director of BC-based Animals in Science Policy Institute, details all of the phenomenal benefits of switching to non-animal alternatives to classroom dissection. 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